I like John Redwood. I started reading his blog in 2006 while I was involved in the Save Parliament campaign, trying to stop the Government pass a Bill whose craziness you’ll have to read about by following the link. John spoke prominently on the Internet and in Parliament against the Bill.
Since then, I’ve seen eye to eye with him on issues such as David Davis’s resignation over civil liberties and the lack of quality in Parliament’s law making process.
But for some time, I’ve been distressed by his view on climate change. Unlike David Cameron, John Redwood seems to be hiding from reality. Rather than accepting our predicament, and using his other political principles to work out how to fix it, he uses weasel words to avoid saying whether he believes or denies.
For a while I accepted this, and tried to point him to evidence he might listen to in the comments of his blog. For example, Confederation of British Industry reports on climate change (“Our changing climate is a threat to the way we live and work. Building a low-carbon economy requires government, businesses and consumers to work together, but we are not doing enough quickly enough.”).
Finally I was tipped over the edge, and challenged him to say whether he thought climate change was happening or not. It seems others have asked him the same thing, as he replied in full.
Here’s the core of John Redwood’s reply:
The warmists and their Ministers need to set out in detail their case to the public. They need to show that
1. The world is warming. Some temperature series show no warming in the last decade, and a cooler period after the war until the 1970s.
2. That warming comes from rising CO2 levels
3. That past periods of warming prior to industrialisation in both historical and geological time were caused by processes and events that do not apply today
4. That the man made element of increasing CO2 is the bit that matters and will cause unacceptable warming
5. That it makes more sense to try to stop the CO2 increases and the warming, than to invest in ways of handling the adverse consequences
6. That taxing and regulating is a better way to change human behaviour than incentives and technology
Even in the full article, John Redwood still doesn’t set out his view. He doesn’t say what he thinks on any of points 1 – 6, or why. I think that he is a climate change denier, but that he isn’t very confident about it. He doesn’t want to admit it in public, then find out he was wrong later in life.
No matter, his old blog posts are still a smoking gun, that will show that he was indecisive, that he didn’t lead when it mattered.
Yes, John is correct that warmists need to show 1 – 6 above. They’ve done so in numerous scientific papers and fat books from the IPCC, as well as evidence you can see with your own eyes. However, it is also the case that denialists need to show the opposite:
Actually John, the denialists and their supports in the old energy companies need to set out in detail their case to the public. They need to show that:
1. The world is not warming. When the north sea is melting, glaciers are retreating.
2. That warming comes from somewhere other than rising CO2 levels
3. That past periods of warming temperature prior to industrialisation in both historical and geological time were caused by processes and events that apply today
4. That the non-man made element of increasing CO2 is the bit that matters and is causing unacceptable warming
5. That it makes more sense to invest in ways of handling the adverse consequences than to try to stop the CO2 increases and the warming
6. That “taxing and regulating” is what is being proposed, when it isn’t, it is creating incentives for the market to deploy existing technologies and create new ones.
I’ll give John that the warmists have to prove all of their 1 – 6 are true, whereas the denialists only have to prove one of theirs is true. However, the denialists also have to show:
b. That allowing for the growth of China and India, and the fundamental physical limit of easily accessible fossil fuel reserves, we will be able to continue using existing sources of fuel indefinitely, at cheap prices.
c. That in an unstable world, where Russia have cut of gas supplies to customers, and there is terrorism, we can continue to rely entirely on a complex supply chain of imported energy every winter.
The burden of proof is just as much on John’s shoulders to show we shouldn’t act to reduce carbon emissions, as mine to show that we should. It’s a risk based analysis.
The sad thing is that John’d be pretty good at working out what action to take to help British businesses make money by getting the world a new zero carbon energy system. He says sound things on related subjects, such as the need for flood prevention (the photo at top of this blog post is John discussing flooding with his constituents) and on making Government buildings energy efficient. Heck, he has recently posted on energy security.
So near, John.
All you have to do is admit to the evidence that climate change is a risk to our country, just as insurance companies do, and help us take out the ultimate insurance policy.
A zero carbon energy system.
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And he doesn’t understand the difference between climate and weather: http://www.theyworkforyou.com/debates/?id=2010-01-05a.42.0&s=Redwood#g50.3
Yes, the “Burden of Proof” lies on both shoulders,
Warmers & Anti-Warmers.
Below is 12 solid arguments, with data references, summarising both the Warmer and Anti-Warmer arguments.
The Anti-warmers are comprehensively debunked:
This is a list of rebuttals of Anti-Global-Warming-Denier-Liar claims.
1. John RENNIE, ex-editor of Scientific American , who weighs in with:
And here is a persuasive & well presented site, Peter SINCLAIR’s “Climate Crock of the Week”
2. Observing a Climate Crock being Born – Live on TV
3. Debunking the Arrogant Claim that NOTHING, EVER, can be Modeled about the Future
4. Debunking the Claim that CO2 is ONLY Beneficial.
5. Debunking that there has been NO warming since 1995, as LINDZEN asserts
… or NO warming since 19XX, or only constant cooling since 18YY, or ice-ages every ZZ, … “cherry-pick, cherry-pick ” …
… or the most EGREGIOUS Denier-Liar of all, so-called “Lord” MONCKTON is revealed for all to see
Here are some other pertinent sites:
6. Twenty often used “Denialist Lies”, and a thorough debunking of them:
7. Here is a WikiPedia type summary of the “Denialist Strategies” :
8. Here is a summary of current major “Climate-Change-Denier-Liars”, and a debunking of them:
9. Here are debunkings of the so-called Climate-Gate affair:
In regard to “HimalayaGate”, aka “GlacierGate” – different to Climate-Gate, see:
10. And here is a comprehensive debunk of Ian PLIMER’s atrocious book ,page by page, paragraph by paragraph, word by word, by Mathematician Ian ENTING @UniMelb:http://tbp.mattandrews.id.au/2009/06/06/debunking-plimer-heaven-and-earth/
11. The famous GRIST website is a delight, summarising a vast range of Denialisms:
12. Here is the latest from the NASA GODDARD institute about Measuring Earth’s Temperature
NOTE – Y2009 was the end of the warmest decade, ever:
I would like you to support your claim that Russian gas suppliers cut gas to paying consumers.
Proper concern would be “when Ukraine steals gas from transit pipelines”.
Or you may say “when those uncivilized Russians propose to build alternative gas pipe to make gas supplies to western Europe more reliable we dismiss them and instead prefer to keep whining about gas outages”
Petr – I wrote that blog post a while ago now.
I’m afraid my reference to gas supply was a glib one, and you should take it at little value as it cites no source.
Feel free to post links to proper good sources of the real story. The context here being, control from a European point of view of its own energy supplies.